I want to see the HR industry gone, says blockchain CEO


Blockchain is a public ledger most closely associated with cryptocurrencies. HRM speaks to the CEO of an Australian company using the technology to transform recruitment… and HR.

If you’re an HR professional (especially if your focus is recruitment), you may not want to meet Sergei Sergienko, CEO of Chronobank, a company working on a blockchain project. If he has his way, five years from now you won’t have a full-time job.

And the gigs any professional applies for? He wants them to be completely different from the one you have today. But you’ve heard all these kinds of apocalyptic claims before, and they’re no big deal, right?  

Sergienko is a co-founder of Edway Group, one of Australia’s leading industrial training and labour supply companies, and he’s hell-bent on seeing that his own business is one of the first to feel the squeeze from his new blockchain-powered platform Chronobank, which is leading the distributed ledger technology revolution in the recruitment industry.

“The first [HR-related industry] to go will be the labour hire industry. And I would like to see my companies go first,” says Sergienko, in what seems an act of self-immolation. “The reason I do is because if there is a better way of doing things, why would I do it the worse way? So I either have to adapt or be put out of competition.”

What exactly is blockchain?

Andrew Spence, HR transformation specialist and CEO of Glass Bead Consulting, explains that blockchain is a decentralised database shared among a network of computers. All computers in the network must approve an exchange before it can be recorded. “Blockchain reminds me of double-entry accounting – with all the ledgers and the cross-checking between them,” says Spence.

“But the added advantage to blockchain systems is that the chains are all connected, so we’ve moved away from this centralised database concept. The benefits are that it’s very hard to hack and it gives more privacy.”

(For a more in-depth explanation, read this.)

Because blockchain is a ledger, it can hold data besides numbers. That means the technology could instantly verify all claims made in a resume. So you won’t be able to lie about holding a previous position and you can’t pretend you went to university that you didn’t. “Anyone can write anything on their resume. But that would not be possible if the resume is kept on blockchain,” says Sergienko.

The second facet of the employment world Sergienko would love to disrupt is full-time positions. He believes people should be rewarded for what they’re worth and not chained to their desks as “slaves”. “I would like to see full-time positions disappear. People are stuck in their jobs and working crazy hours for a salary,” he says.

This forms the second stage of Chronobank’s strategy for disrupting the HR and recruitment industries. It’s called LaborX, and it’s a decentralised marketplace where people in real-world professions will be able to sell their labour hours to anyone. Essentially, labour-hour tokens will act as a substitute for payments in government-issued currencies.

“What we’re trying to do is create a marketplace or an exchange, where you have an order book. If you’ve ever traded shares, you will know what I’m talking about,” says Sergienko.

The expected pushback

Surely there will be institutional roadblocks though? The taxi lobby groups fought hard against Uber, and it’s taken Bitcoin years to gain credibility.

“Of course the industry will [push back],” says Sergienko, “But I don’t think [HR’s] lobbying is as strong as the finance lobby. And they’re not as united. They’ll probably use stuff like workers comp and tax collection as an argument. Luckily, I’ve already thought of that, and the system will have it built in.”

Chronobank is a fairly new company, so all this is probably pretty far off, right? The taxi industry thought the exact same thing, quips Sergienko.

“They went through a bit of a shock within five years. I think we can do the same in HR – which has been getting it too easy for quite some time,” he says. “I would like to see the whole HR industry gone. Not gone, as such, but filled up by computers, which is more effective and cheaper. That’s what I would like to see.”

The human factor

But surely you still need a strong personal element, right? The profession is called human resources, after all.

“If HR thinks that a robot can’t go through a list of 20 candidates and pick three, then they had better think again. If you can get away with charging 20 per cent of a person’s wage for making three phone calls and sticking a position up on Seek, then I think you’re being overpaid.”

That’s because, as Glass Bead Consulting’s Spence explains, you can’t look at blockchain in isolation from other technologies.

“We have to look at the developments in AI and machine learning too, which will be layered on top of blockchain,” says Spence.

Despite that, Spence believes the role of humans in HR won’t disappear. It will simply evolve, with new technologies like blockchain doing the bulk of simpler tasks.

He believes any jobs regarding empathy, emotional understanding, complex problem solving or critical thinking will likely be a safe haven for humans. So Spence’s message to HR employees is to evolve your skillset immediately.

But what’s Sergienko’s message?

“It’s not like I have a personal agenda against any of the businesses that we’ll be affecting. We believe in human evolution and computers. And that’s why we’re doing what we’re doing,” he says. “Either you adapt to change, or you are left by the side of the road.”

This article originally appeared in the October 2017 issue of HRM magazine.

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Nathalie Lynton
Nathalie Lynton
6 years ago

Evolve or die. There was a time when the profession was concerned that pre-filtering candidates as they apply for roles would do HR Practitioners and Recruiters out of a job. It’s not so. I look forward to using these emerging technologies as the efficacy seems to stack up. That’s said, developing a People Plan for an SME or dealing with conflict when it arises or presenting a business case to leadership about how improve upon diversity and inclusion for example won’t be able to done by an emerging technology. Ultimately ensuring a business operates within a legal framework, and that… Read more »

Julanne Martin
Julanne Martin
6 years ago

From a technology perspective, I love the concept and can see a real need for it. From a ‘hiring’ perspective however, I would be very concerned for a time when software is the only selection process used by organisations. The role of HR encompasses many aspects including recruitment, and within that subset the value HR brings to the table is far more that just screening. As you say, people can write anything on their CV, however just because someone has worked in a role doesn’t mean they are good at it.

Liz Razzano
Liz Razzano
6 years ago

Interesting article. Obviously written in such a way to capture those passionate HR professionals who believe in their profession and all that it stands for (like me). But I’m sure your concept and theory comes at a cost which may or may not be in support of existing technological infrastructure now and in the future which cannot be ceased stopped or refunded should it demonstrate a negative impact in the workplace. You can walk away and leave the responsibility to the company that has purchased your system and probably provide human online support. I am sure that cost would equate… Read more »

Louise
Louise
6 years ago

Interesting and I agree with the comments posted.. I’ve been in HR for about 17 years and as a generalist so there are elements of HR that still require the “human touch”. I’m all for the automation of processes and continuous improvement and evolution and I do think that companies and industries are going into the technology space.. our industry isn’t immune to this technological wave.. I’m curious as to what areas of HR may experience growth, which areas might become obsolete over the next decade.. and what skill sets we as hr practitioners may need to go back and… Read more »

Vera
Vera
6 years ago

does anyone knows how the labour regulations between CEO and ICO start up are regulated ?

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I want to see the HR industry gone, says blockchain CEO


Blockchain is a public ledger most closely associated with cryptocurrencies. HRM speaks to the CEO of an Australian company using the technology to transform recruitment… and HR.

If you’re an HR professional (especially if your focus is recruitment), you may not want to meet Sergei Sergienko, CEO of Chronobank, a company working on a blockchain project. If he has his way, five years from now you won’t have a full-time job.

And the gigs any professional applies for? He wants them to be completely different from the one you have today. But you’ve heard all these kinds of apocalyptic claims before, and they’re no big deal, right?  

Sergienko is a co-founder of Edway Group, one of Australia’s leading industrial training and labour supply companies, and he’s hell-bent on seeing that his own business is one of the first to feel the squeeze from his new blockchain-powered platform Chronobank, which is leading the distributed ledger technology revolution in the recruitment industry.

“The first [HR-related industry] to go will be the labour hire industry. And I would like to see my companies go first,” says Sergienko, in what seems an act of self-immolation. “The reason I do is because if there is a better way of doing things, why would I do it the worse way? So I either have to adapt or be put out of competition.”

What exactly is blockchain?

Andrew Spence, HR transformation specialist and CEO of Glass Bead Consulting, explains that blockchain is a decentralised database shared among a network of computers. All computers in the network must approve an exchange before it can be recorded. “Blockchain reminds me of double-entry accounting – with all the ledgers and the cross-checking between them,” says Spence.

“But the added advantage to blockchain systems is that the chains are all connected, so we’ve moved away from this centralised database concept. The benefits are that it’s very hard to hack and it gives more privacy.”

(For a more in-depth explanation, read this.)

Because blockchain is a ledger, it can hold data besides numbers. That means the technology could instantly verify all claims made in a resume. So you won’t be able to lie about holding a previous position and you can’t pretend you went to university that you didn’t. “Anyone can write anything on their resume. But that would not be possible if the resume is kept on blockchain,” says Sergienko.

The second facet of the employment world Sergienko would love to disrupt is full-time positions. He believes people should be rewarded for what they’re worth and not chained to their desks as “slaves”. “I would like to see full-time positions disappear. People are stuck in their jobs and working crazy hours for a salary,” he says.

This forms the second stage of Chronobank’s strategy for disrupting the HR and recruitment industries. It’s called LaborX, and it’s a decentralised marketplace where people in real-world professions will be able to sell their labour hours to anyone. Essentially, labour-hour tokens will act as a substitute for payments in government-issued currencies.

“What we’re trying to do is create a marketplace or an exchange, where you have an order book. If you’ve ever traded shares, you will know what I’m talking about,” says Sergienko.

The expected pushback

Surely there will be institutional roadblocks though? The taxi lobby groups fought hard against Uber, and it’s taken Bitcoin years to gain credibility.

“Of course the industry will [push back],” says Sergienko, “But I don’t think [HR’s] lobbying is as strong as the finance lobby. And they’re not as united. They’ll probably use stuff like workers comp and tax collection as an argument. Luckily, I’ve already thought of that, and the system will have it built in.”

Chronobank is a fairly new company, so all this is probably pretty far off, right? The taxi industry thought the exact same thing, quips Sergienko.

“They went through a bit of a shock within five years. I think we can do the same in HR – which has been getting it too easy for quite some time,” he says. “I would like to see the whole HR industry gone. Not gone, as such, but filled up by computers, which is more effective and cheaper. That’s what I would like to see.”

The human factor

But surely you still need a strong personal element, right? The profession is called human resources, after all.

“If HR thinks that a robot can’t go through a list of 20 candidates and pick three, then they had better think again. If you can get away with charging 20 per cent of a person’s wage for making three phone calls and sticking a position up on Seek, then I think you’re being overpaid.”

That’s because, as Glass Bead Consulting’s Spence explains, you can’t look at blockchain in isolation from other technologies.

“We have to look at the developments in AI and machine learning too, which will be layered on top of blockchain,” says Spence.

Despite that, Spence believes the role of humans in HR won’t disappear. It will simply evolve, with new technologies like blockchain doing the bulk of simpler tasks.

He believes any jobs regarding empathy, emotional understanding, complex problem solving or critical thinking will likely be a safe haven for humans. So Spence’s message to HR employees is to evolve your skillset immediately.

But what’s Sergienko’s message?

“It’s not like I have a personal agenda against any of the businesses that we’ll be affecting. We believe in human evolution and computers. And that’s why we’re doing what we’re doing,” he says. “Either you adapt to change, or you are left by the side of the road.”

This article originally appeared in the October 2017 issue of HRM magazine.

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Nathalie Lynton
Nathalie Lynton
6 years ago

Evolve or die. There was a time when the profession was concerned that pre-filtering candidates as they apply for roles would do HR Practitioners and Recruiters out of a job. It’s not so. I look forward to using these emerging technologies as the efficacy seems to stack up. That’s said, developing a People Plan for an SME or dealing with conflict when it arises or presenting a business case to leadership about how improve upon diversity and inclusion for example won’t be able to done by an emerging technology. Ultimately ensuring a business operates within a legal framework, and that… Read more »

Julanne Martin
Julanne Martin
6 years ago

From a technology perspective, I love the concept and can see a real need for it. From a ‘hiring’ perspective however, I would be very concerned for a time when software is the only selection process used by organisations. The role of HR encompasses many aspects including recruitment, and within that subset the value HR brings to the table is far more that just screening. As you say, people can write anything on their CV, however just because someone has worked in a role doesn’t mean they are good at it.

Liz Razzano
Liz Razzano
6 years ago

Interesting article. Obviously written in such a way to capture those passionate HR professionals who believe in their profession and all that it stands for (like me). But I’m sure your concept and theory comes at a cost which may or may not be in support of existing technological infrastructure now and in the future which cannot be ceased stopped or refunded should it demonstrate a negative impact in the workplace. You can walk away and leave the responsibility to the company that has purchased your system and probably provide human online support. I am sure that cost would equate… Read more »

Louise
Louise
6 years ago

Interesting and I agree with the comments posted.. I’ve been in HR for about 17 years and as a generalist so there are elements of HR that still require the “human touch”. I’m all for the automation of processes and continuous improvement and evolution and I do think that companies and industries are going into the technology space.. our industry isn’t immune to this technological wave.. I’m curious as to what areas of HR may experience growth, which areas might become obsolete over the next decade.. and what skill sets we as hr practitioners may need to go back and… Read more »

Vera
Vera
6 years ago

does anyone knows how the labour regulations between CEO and ICO start up are regulated ?

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